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 EvolvingNiner (original poster new member #85826) posted at 11:57 PM on Saturday, February 15th, 2025

Firstly, thanks for reading through My Story. I've lurked here on occasion and became a member last week, feeling I needed to share my burden with others who have experienced the pain of infidelity. I read one post in Just Found Out that brought me to tears. I imagine that has happened to many on this forum.

My Story: In Sep, 2022 I visited a very good friend and his wife who live in Alberta (I'm in BC). It was a planned trip that we try to fit in once a year. After I used his bathroom, I remarked that his scale isn't accurate. He replied that it was. That brief exchange marked the beginning of this journey, which started with the realization, after a number of walks and a lot of talking with him, that I had been suffering from PTSD, at least to some extent. I had lost eleven pounds (I was 118, so that is weight I couldn't afford to lose) without even knowing it. Together we reasoned I had been experiencing PTSD from the trauma I had when my 1st wife had an affair 27 years prior, which was likely triggered by concerns in my current marriage of 24 years, concerns that had been manifested in my body for a few months, but had not yet reached my head. Until my visit to Alberta. This is when fear and worry became my reality.

In the fall of 2021, my wife took a position as a medical office assistant with a local doctor, who was opening an extended access clinic in addition to his general practice. Since his newer clientele were on the wealthier side, able to afford the $500 or so monthly fee, there was a concierge element to the position. She was ideally suited for this, loved the job, and I was fully supportive. Partway through 2022, they began meeting Fridays after the last patient left. They met alone for two to three hours at the fancier E.A. clinic. I understood and supported this, especially knowing there were a lot of moving parts in establishing the clinic and building systems and a patient base. At least I thought I supported it, as there was a deeply rooted concern that began to fester, then ramped up when they introduced wine and appetizers to their meeting. This concern became known to me during my September visit.

After returning from Alberta, I approached my wife, shared my concerns, and asked if there was anything I had to be worried about. She reassured me there wasn't, and I believed her. In truth, perhaps at that point there wasn't, but it was apparent to me later on that the appropriateness roadblock had been nudged forward. In mid-October 2022, when using a shared laptop, I discovered she had an email account I was not aware of. Unfortunately, I also discovered she and the doctor had had daily email communication going back several months. Much of it was relatively innocuous, but some messages brushed up against flirtation, and a few were most definitely inappropriate. After mulling over my options, and seeking wisdom from my Alberta buddy, I confessed to her I had read through her private emails, apologized, but also expressed concern, clearly stating my opinion some of the communication was inappropriate. She disagreed, lovingly, but firmly.

Over the next two months, things only got worse. Not worse in terms of our relationship, as it had always been strong, loving, supportive, with affection and intimacy, even during these incredibly difficult weeks. But worse in terms of my worry, concern, fears. I was frequently brought to tears as I thought through things and sorted my emotions. Worse in terms of what I eventually came to understand was her gaslighting me. I'd share with her, mostly by email, of my growing concerns, several times restating my belief she was continuing to nudge the roadblock further down the road. Her response was always one of "I'm 100% committed to you". There's so much more I could write about this very dark three months, but I don't want to make this post longer than it's already going to be.

I received an email from the doctor in early December, 2022. My wife had shared some of my concerns with him and told him I was seriously considering not attending the coming Christmas party. That was my first opportunity to share my concerns directly to him, mentioning the emails, citing a couple examples of messages I thought were inappropriate, and asking him to establish boundaries at work so as to protect my marriage - and his. He replied saying he would, and included an apology. Nine days later they had sex at his clinic.

I had told my wife after the initial sharing of concern over the email exchanges that I wouldn't read her private emails again. However, I did continue to monitor them, without reading, until I noticed one that had hearts in the preview text that shows in the inbox. That was devastating beyond words. It was the day after they had a second physical encounter, with the message expressing love. It was obvious they had been intimate. That was Dec 18, one week before Christmas. I confronted my wife that evening, and that propelled us into two weeks of emotional talks, both of us seeking IC, and lots of inward work to consider how we proceed. Prayer as well. And lots of tears. In one of our talks, she told me she was looking at how a polyamorous arrangement could look. She wasn't necessarily adopting this as a position, just thinking of it as one way to move forward. I knew beyond doubt this was not an option for me.

In another of our talks, I put forth a hypothetical question: if you had to choose between staying married to me and giving up your job and relationship completely, or keeping your job and giving up your marriage, what would you choose? Without hesitation, she said she would choose the job, framing it that she wouldn't want to be "told what to do". How could a beautiful marriage of 24 and a half years so quickly turn on its head?

How she answered that question sat with me for a couple of days. Through that, prayer, seeking out wise counsel from my friend, and a zoom session with my counsellor, I knew what I had to do. Not what I wanted, but what I needed to do. On Jan 4, 2023, we went for a walk and I announced separation, clearly telling her that while I knew what lay at the end of this road, my palms would remain open for change. When we reached our home, I also exclaimed to her "this is my house, these are my kids (we had two girls in our marriage, who were 16 and 13 at the time), I'm not going anywhere. When this happened in my first marriage, I chose to move out of the house into an apartment. In Feb, 2023, she wrote me a letter, telling me among other things, that our marriage was over. The doctor had also pulled the plug on his marriage.

I know this is really really long, but it feels good to share it. We went through mediation in July, 2024, and the divorce was official in November. There has been so much pain, emotion, anger. The tear well has pretty much ran dry, but the poison of anger continues to course through my veins. I started dating my second wife a bit less than a year from separation from my first wife. I truly fell in love, and it felt so good. The marriage always felt so good and right. Until it didn't. Falling in love so soon after my first wife's affair helped dissipate the anger, so this time it's been an entirely different, and much much more difficult, experience. The anger hasn't been reserved solely against my wife. The doctor she began employment with in 2021 had been my doctor for 20 years. Plus I had done contract work for him for 15 years. So much broken trust. So much anger.

Fast forward to today. I find it difficult, at times, to focus on my work. I have a home based business and I've been behind ever since the fall of 2022 when this journey began. Not a day goes by that I don't think about what happened. That I don't feel some amount of anger towards my former spouse, and former doctor. The younger daughter, who just turned 16, has lived with me since the separation. She has mental health concerns so that is another weight on me.

Two last things. I've had incredible support from many. My church, pastors, my Alberta buddy, my family, my two children from my first marriage. In fact, my eldest daughter, 35, has been the self-appointed president of the "we're in your corner, dad" support team. Lots of love to carry me through these dark times. Secondly, despite the enormous loss and accompanying pain of infidelity (for a second time), there have been positives. I have a closer relationship with all four of my children. My family of origin too. Also a deeper kinship with my Alberta friend (we married sisters, mine being my first wife, who died of cancer in 2020, and his being his first wife, who died 15 years ago, of a brain tumour). We've remained close friends through all the journeying we've done, the trials, the losses, the victories, everything. The most impactful of these positives is the relationship with my 16 year old. Challenging at times for sure, but full of moments to celebrate.

If you've read to the end, my thanks. A burden shared is half the weight. I would be interested to hear how other BSs have managed life and in particular, the anger. I know things will get better. I believe God has some wonderful things in store for me. Still, I'm wanting to move beyond this place I've been sitting in. Embrace my new reality, and with it new opportunities, and, perhaps, someday, a new relationship. It's just so hard to get there.

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The1stWife ( Guide #58832) posted at 12:49 PM on Sunday, February 16th, 2025

Thank you for being willing to share your journey.

I will point you to the Healing library here at SI to connect with articles etc. that may help you.

Also there is a forum I Can Relate that may have topics of interest to you.

That being said, I understand the anger. When I finally realized who my H was / is - flirty, probably more EAs than I knew, midlife crisis affair where he planned to D me— let’s just say it didn’t fit well with the life I had "thought" I had.

I was stuck in an anger phase for 3 years after dday2. I was only healed to a point and it wasn’t 100%. I kept waiting to feel better. 2-3 times a year I would have some rage towards my H. I should also mention that I was involved in a very toxic work environment both before, during & after the Affair. And I ended up leaving my church due to a toxic manipulative female pastor.

I decided one day to heal myself. Do everything I can to move forward. Find peace. Stop living in the past and look what I had right in front of me.

Every day for 2 years I had a challenge or goal. First goal was to stop looking at the OW’s social media. Best decision I made.

Second was to find some joy each day (or almost every day). Read a book. Have a small amount of "me time". Look around and be grateful for the things I had. Enjoy my garden.

Third remind myself to stop focusing on the past. My H is not the same person he was while cheating. He has recognized his mistakes. He’s made amends.

And lastly, this is a bit of an odd thing but I believe this in my heart/mind. The best revenge is a life well lived.

Life has its ups and downs. But you get to choose your path. You have amazing family support and should be thankful. Maybe some professional counseling would be helpful too.

Sorry this is so long. I hope it helps you.

Survived two affairs and brink of Divorce. Happily reconciled. 11 years out from Dday. Reconciliation takes two committed people to be successful.

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Stevesn ( member #58312) posted at 2:16 PM on Sunday, February 16th, 2025

I am sorry for your pain. Also I am glad you took the stand you did. You are a strong person for doing so.

Tell me, did you communicate with his wife? Did you co firm they divorced as well? Hopefully she knows what has happened in her own marriage.

I am glad you have the support that surrounds you. If you haven’t already engaged a trauma therapist specifically it may be beneficial to do so as you heal from this pain.

The truth is that this is a day by day process for the first few years. Stay strong and be good to yourself as you heal. Take refuge in family and friends and eventually, while you won’t ever forget, you will regain a life you can be proud of.

fBBF. Just before proposing, broke it off after her 2nd confirmed PA in 2 yrs. 9 mo later I met the wonderful woman I have spent the next 30 years with.

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leafields ( Guide #63517) posted at 2:33 PM on Sunday, February 16th, 2025

So sorry for your painful journey. For me, my IC (individual counselor) and I worked through The Grief Recovery Handbook. You go through exercises and map out the relationship. At the end, you write a letter and read it out loud. It sounds weird, but the reading out loud helped me to release the anger and pain. I also did some work in a mindfulness book that was helpful in processing the emotions.

BW M 34years, Dday 1: March 2018, Dday 2: August 2019, D final 2/25/21

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gr8ful ( member #58180) posted at 6:20 PM on Sunday, February 16th, 2025

OP,

As with others, I’m sorry you’ve been victimized by adultery, in two marriages now. Are you a Millennial? With the length of your marriages, I would have guessed you’re a GenX’r, but I’ve only seen huge guilt for looking at your spouse’s hidden email account and/or text messages in Millennials or younger. I will never in my life understand why it’s so very bad, in some cases viewed as the equivalent moral failure as adultery, to merely look at what your spouse is up to. SMH.

It’s your life of course, but my strong suggestion is to get into IC and dive into whether you are too trusting, or codependent, or other challenges, including the continuing weight loss. All of us at times need professional help. If you’re young enough, you should have no problem seeking therapy, whereas I see Boomers struggle much more with seeking help.

If you can pull yourself together with therapy & family support, and you are interested in a new relationship, you will be shocked at what options become available for you. I deeply suggest working with your therapist to develop new boundaries, that you’ve solidified BEFORE any new relationship. Things like these:

1. ANY kind of infidelity - emotional, physical, financial, etc. will be an instantaneous deal-breaker. NO second chances.

2. 100% transparency in all things. Digital accounts, texts, emails, etc. Shared passcodes, etc. If any hidden email accounts, hidden DM’s, deleted texts, etc. are found, you reserve the right to instantaneously end the relationship.

3. Honoring relationship concerns with others. You will not remain in a relationship where your SO starts loosening boundaries with others, whether at work or anywhere else.

Work them all out with your therapist, and then disclose them to any relationship prospect. Maybe not on the first date, but VERY EARLY in the relationship, else you may never share them.

We are rooting for you.

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 EvolvingNiner (original poster new member #85826) posted at 10:19 PM on Sunday, February 16th, 2025

Thanks for the replies - they are helpful. This is why I chose to join this board. To share my story with others who have had / are having a similar experience. To hear from others how they handled the emotions, the pain, moving on. Our stories are all unique, but with many common threads tying them together. Thanks also for the suggestions and advice you offered.

@ The1stWife

I was stuck in an anger phase for 3 years after dday2. I was only healed to a point and it wasn’t 100%. I kept waiting to feel better. 2-3 times a year I would have some rage towards my H. I should also mention that I was involved in a very toxic work environment both before, during & after the Affair. And I ended up leaving my church due to a toxic manipulative female pastor.


That's a whole lot of toxicity. Sorry you had that to contend with, alongside your grief and pain. And anger. Stuck is a good word, and I think it applies, at times to what we all seem to go through. Yet there's a portion of the anger that is a righteous anger. Something we ought to feel. Have a right to feel. Navigating between those two ends of the anger spectrum can be (and has for me) difficult.

Life has its ups and downs. But you get to choose your path. You have amazing family support and should be thankful. Maybe some professional counseling would be helpful too.


I am very thankful, thank you. This support has held me up and kept me as strong as I could be, given the circumstances. My Alberta buddy, aka my Alberta counsellor, has occasionally suggested IC. I did go a couple of times after, and have considered it since. I know it would be helpful. Cost and time tend to be roadblocks. I recognize there are steps that are available to me that I need to just take.

@ Stevesn

Tell me, did you communicate with his wife? Did you confirm they divorced as well? Hopefully she knows what has happened in her own marriage.


I reached out to the doctor's wife fairly early on in this journey, a little over a month past Dday. We knew each other as I worked with her as well as the doctor regarding the contract work I did for him. We exchanged a few emails in Jan/Feb, 2023, then again in May of that year. We were BS kin, commiserating and empathizing. And sharing information to fill in blanks, most of which were within the narrative he shared with her.

The last exchange we had, in May, 2023, related to a sexual misconduct complaint I had threatened him with. I had contacted the College of Physicians and Surgeons that spring. After speaking with a Complaint Navigator I learned that, based on what happened, and my relationship with him (my being his patient, and he being my client), I had a legitimate complaint. He wouldn't loose his license, but would be reprimanded, with the complaint available to the public for those searching for it. His wife had heard from him about my threat, and wanted me to know she was concerned for their two young adult children. She also told me she would not be apathetic to it. I was biding my time on the complaint, wanting to be sure one way or the other, not wanting to do it completely out of vengeance, though it'd be difficult to set that completely aside as a reason. Her message to me was what pushed me to the decision to not complain.

I presume they are also now divorced, as are my wife and I.

@ leafields

For me, my IC (individual counselor) and I worked through The Grief Recovery Handbook. You go through exercises and map out the relationship. At the end, you write a letter and read it out loud. It sounds weird, but the reading out loud helped me to release the anger and pain. I also did some work in a mindfulness book that was helpful in processing the emotions.


Thanks for this. I'll consider looking for this Handbook. Speaking of mindfulness, I mentioned my now 16 year old daughter who lives with me. In Nov, 2023, and again in May, 2024, she spent time in the high risk unit of the pediatrics ward at the hospital. That was a springboard for high risk counselling, then a DBT Counselling six month program, which only has another 3 weeks left. It's quite intense, with one weekly IC session, and one weekly group skills session, with five other teen participants, each with one parent. I've been attending with my daughter. One of the skills that is taught throughout the program is mindfulness, something I've been vaguely aware of, but never taken a deep dive into. I have found these skills helpful for my recovery road. Perhaps it has been divinely appointed that the help my daughter needed has also helped me.

@ gr8ful

As with others, I’m sorry you’ve been victimized by adultery, in two marriages now. Are you a Millennial?


Well, I turned 63 last month, so am at the tail end of baby boomers, and a couple years shy of GenX. Call me a BMX! My first marriage lasted 13 years, the second 24 1/2. I could make a very long post on the two affairs, reasons for them, how I responded, how they responded. The experiences are very different from each other. What I will say is that I always bore some responsibility in my first marriage, at least regarding putting the marriage in a place where there was vulnerability. I was a good husband, but not a great one. The affair though was 100% on her. As for my second marriage, I was a very good husband, having learned from my earlier marriage experience. That affair is entirely on her. Still, there are lots of variables, personality traits, circumstances, that led to these affairs. I don't think it's as simple as stating "she cheated on me". It's much more complicated, though in the end, it's a choice they both made.

I wouldn't say I felt a lot of guilt about "stumbling" upon her new (to me) email account. My apology to her was sincere, and I believe appropriate at the time, and, I think, necessary before my stating the opinion the communication was inappropriate. There was a part of me that felt some inner conscious pricking, but in the rear view mirror after the affair came to light, the email monitoring was an important gauge to help me self-assess what was happening. Hope this makes sense.

There is work I wish to do on understanding myself. Some of that has taken place organically as I faced the ptsd and current worries in the fall of 2022, and moved through all the considering and decision-making since. On the Enneagram personality scale, I'm a bonafide peace-loving conflict-averse 9. But, through this trial, I have burst past the peace-seeking and ran headlong into battle. With this I have felt my emotions more than I ever have in my life. The grief hit hard. The pain drove in relentlessly. The anger too. The handle I chose for this site - EvolvingNiner - is an ode to this evolving reality. I have much more to grow. But there is no turning back on now feeling my feelings - something my Alberta buddy says is a positive thing, despite that it has come at the expense of a marriage and the resulting loss and accompanying emotions.


Again, thanks to you all for your comments, support and suggestions. Very much appreciated.

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Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 10:44 PM on Sunday, February 16th, 2025

Fellow PTSD sufferer here...
I realized I had issues but thought they were from my years in the police. Although being a cop is not as dramatic as shown on TV, you still get your share of traumatic situations and experiences. I had issues in my marriage (fortunately not infidelity related) and sought out IC. The IC was quick to diagnose that although being stabbed and seeing body-parts, suicide- and murder victims and all that could cause PTSD – the MAIN cause of my PTSD was walking in on my then-fiancé having sex with another man.
Now – I LEFT that relationship. This was before I met my present wife. But in leaving I took myself along with me. Including the issues I had.

It took the IC a few sessions to teach me how to deal with it, maybe the key factor being that I did not create the infidelity and couldn’t have prevented it. The infidelity didn’t define me.

I encourage you in the strongest way possible to get IC for your PTSD.
You KNOW it’s due to the infidelity you experienced in your previous marriage, and hammered deeper into you with your second wife.

I want to make one more suggestion:
We suckers who get cheated on... our sense of trust is really screwed. Rather, we think we can’t find the correct people to trust.
I want to teach you a new way to trust. Something I have been doing for years.
The blind trust we think we have for (some) others: It doesn’t exist. Stop it – it’s juvenile and dangerous.
Instead – trust but verify.

This verification can be relatively simple.
Like, the fact the doctor has an office and some plaques on his wall and wears a white coat would be enough verification to trust his recommendation for a certain painkiller is valid. Same recommendation coming from someone wearing a loud suit at a nightclub... maybe not so much. The fact the restaurant is monitored by health-and-safety, has a license and steady business indicates it’s safe to eat and I won’t get food-poisoning.
I trust my kids. But at a certain age I would verify that when they told me they were neither smoking nor drinking by smelling their breath and maybe searching for tobacco shreds in their coat pockets.
I trust my wife with our finances, yet I also go online and check that our bills are paid, and our funds are about as expected.
I trust the mechanic that fixes my truck, but that’s because he’s been solid the last several times, and while building that trust I would check his work and his prices. After a certain time, I don’t have to always or constantly doubt him.

It’s never blind trust, but the more often I can verify someone’s reliability the less a need I have to verify them. The more I trust them without the hassle of doubting my trust-o-meter.

"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus

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leafields ( Guide #63517) posted at 2:37 AM on Monday, February 17th, 2025

I'll be 62 in a couple of months. I mention that because back in the day, some of the treatment would have been considered out there or unconventional. I know that I thought that I wouldn't get much help from The Grief Recovery Handbook, and mindfulness was just weird/crazy/stupid. Boy, what I learned from both has been invaluable. I think if you go about it as "what I've done so far hasn't worked" and looking for what will be helpful for you to heal. So much has been accomplished in the mental health field since the 60's.

I always bore some responsibility in my first marriage, at least regarding putting the marriage in a place where there was vulnerability

Nope. Never a good reason for an A (affair). She could have talked to you, asked for MC or D'd you first. My XWH is diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder and treated me like crap the last 10-15 years. I could have cheated, but I didn't. If you want to mention unmet needs, I should have been the one to cheat.

Somebody, I think it was Bigger, pointed out that while problems in the M may be 50/50, the decision to cheat was 100% on the WS...so this may make it more like 25/75.

Don't sell yourself short. You have worth.

BW M 34years, Dday 1: March 2018, Dday 2: August 2019, D final 2/25/21

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 EvolvingNiner (original poster new member #85826) posted at 9:35 PM on Monday, February 17th, 2025

@ Bigger

Fellow PTSD sufferer here...
I realized I had issues but thought they were from my years in the police. Although being a cop is not as dramatic as shown on TV, you still get your share of traumatic situations and experiences. I had issues in my marriage (fortunately not infidelity related) and sought out IC. The IC was quick to diagnose that although being stabbed and seeing body-parts, suicide- and murder victims and all that could cause PTSD – the MAIN cause of my PTSD was walking in on my then-fiancé having sex with another man.
Now – I LEFT that relationship. This was before I met my present wife. But in leaving I took myself along with me. Including the issues I had.

I encourage you in the strongest way possible to get IC for your PTSD.
You KNOW it’s due to the infidelity you experienced in your previous marriage, and hammered deeper into you with your second wife.

I want to make one more suggestion:
I want to teach you a new way to trust. Something I have been doing for years.
The blind trust we think we have for (some) others: It doesn’t exist. Stop it – it’s juvenile and dangerous.
Instead – trust but verify.


Thanks, Bigger, for your reply, support and comments. Also, thanks for taking on trauma while keeping our streets safe. Police and emergency responders give an awful lot in the line of duty. Sorry for the resulting PTSD, and the PTSD caused by your relational experience.

I had one other bout of PTSD in my second marriage, 7 or 8 years ago, when my wife was taking an E.A. course and had to meet with a male student for coffee as part of an assignment. That sent me on a PTSD tailspin. I couldn't not get the idea out of my head that some romantic aspect might ensue, even though I completely trusted my wife, and knew this was just a factor of my ptsd-influenced mind. She was supportive and understanding, even commented to me she was expecting something like this to crop up eventually, and was surprised it happened before then. I was surprised how much that affected me.

My counsellor in one session during the fall of 2022 when I was confronted with my concerns and worries, said to me "the hippocampus remembers", in reference to my mind being taken back to the affair my first wife had, and how that was affecting me during these early worrisome days that were only a matter of weeks away from Dday.

The PTSD I experienced that fall was hard, but paled in comparison to Dday, and the following pain of this second infidelity. That PTSD was, I think, short lived as I moved into grief of loss and anger, etc. I realize it could very well crop up again in a new relationship, when that happens. I'm sure that will be a conversation I'll have with a future romantic partner.

As for your Trust & Verify suggestion, I'll certainly consider your advice. I think I'll have a desire to lean heavily into the Trusting side of that without feeling I need to accompany it with Verification. I think there's room and space to have a deep sense of trust without it being a blind trust. Time will tell. Thanks again for sharing.


@ leafields

Somebody, I think it was Bigger, pointed out that while problems in the M may be 50/50, the decision to cheat was 100% on the WS...so this may make it more like 25/75.

Don't sell yourself short. You have worth.


Thank you. I do agree, and stated as such in my post, that 100% of the affair was on my wife. In both instances. I do think though that there are many variables, factors, nuances, etc that go into making us who we are, how we interact with our spouses in a marriage, how we deal with problems that arise, inevitable conflict, and so on. Even on how our wayward spouses can slide down the slope that leads to their having an affair. By no means am I excusing this behaviour, nor am I suggesting the Betrayed should bear any responsibility. There are many layers here to explore, dissect, unpack and the Betrayed are part of those conversations, as are the Wayward. I'm unsure if I'm articulating very well what I'm trying to say!

I also agree....I DO have worth. Thanks.

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